tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3350096535937978369.post1429779440115190494..comments2024-01-09T18:40:53.465-08:00Comments on Ramblings of a Creative Double Dipper: City of Bones chapter fourChristwriterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17590823821715820817noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3350096535937978369.post-85568866879292740552012-11-05T15:04:32.487-08:002012-11-05T15:04:32.487-08:00It might be, but the "all ages club" adm...It might be, but the "all ages club" admitting ages under 16 is what really strains my credibility. I don't have a problem with the idea of a venue admitting minors, as defined by beverage laws (minor=under 21. So a venue that admits 18+ only could be said to admit minors) <br /><br />What I have a problem with is this very specifically described rave/dance club, with lots of dry ice and darkness (equaling very poor visibility and thus very poor supervision) admitting FIFTEEN YEAR OLDS into a venue whose WHOLE PURPOSE is to sell large amounts of alcohol, when the aforementioned minors do not have a legal guardian present, and where people are OPENLY SELLING DRUGS. <br /><br />It's not that I doubt it's legal to have the clubs, or to admit people under 16 into the clubs. It's that I doubt anybody running a club would be willing to take the legal liability of having UNSUPERVISIED FIFTEEN YEAR OLDS anywhere near their alcohol. The regulatory boards run sting operations where legal minors are brought into a venue. You sell the plants alcohol, you get arrested, and your place of employ has to put on a dog and pony show to stay open. Hell, when I was googling NYC liquor laws, there was something about how if you want to have a "Teen night" at your club, you had to notify the regulatory boards in writing...which to me indicates the board itself is abso-fucking-lutely going to run a sting on the venue while the "teen night" is going on. A teenager that young might as well have "STING OPERATION" tattooed to her forehead.<br /><br />A teenager without a guardian is a MASSIVE liability. And this kid is, again, fifteen. She might be able to get into a concert hall, or a coffee shop, or an irish pub, which is most of what I found when I googled "All ages club NYC" but no WAY was she admitted to a dance club without an adult guardian.<br /><br />"Adult Guardian" being defined as someone with ID showing the same last name and physical address as the minor. <br /><br />For this story to work, given how paranoid liquor-selling business have to be of the regulatory boards, Clary would have had to have been admitted to the club WITH HER MOTHER. Which, as we're about to see, would have destroyed the story.<br /><br />Now, if she'd snuck in with a fake ID, that'd be a different story. That isn't even implied.<br /><br />Re: Open on a Sunday...well, I didn't make it clear but I am conceding that they might be OPEN on a Sunday, but they're not going to be so insanely busy that the wait to get in will be exceptional compared to Friday or Saturday. Christwriterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17590823821715820817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3350096535937978369.post-84551386746558777152012-11-05T11:35:04.916-08:002012-11-05T11:35:04.916-08:00Yeah, that's more like. Stupid, but not depres...Yeah, that's more like. Stupid, but not depressing-stupid like John Norman.<br /><br />One point in defence of the author - A minor, minor, point in the face of all other plot-required idiocies so far. NYC all-ages venues do allow minors (At least they did the last I heard), but said minors are all tagged with big magic-marker Xs on their hands. The lack of this detail leads me to believe the author has heard of all-ages shows but never actually been to one. And outside of the Bible Belt, most restaurants and clubs close on Monday not Sunday.<br /><br />And that's about it in defence of this writer, because otherwise her OC in this Harry Potter fanfic is an idiot. A fainty needs-to-be-rescued idiot.<br /><br />"The night had gotten even hotter, and running home felt like swimming as fast as she could through boiling soup."<br /><br />Since when did it heat up after sundown?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05828438966741169694noreply@blogger.com